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One more question which I have asked often with no reply so I'll try again on a separate thread.
I am sure that we all agree that the vast majority of scientists think the evidence for evolution is compelling. I am sure we also agree that scientists are trained to evaluate evidence impartially.
In that case a Creationist owes us an explanation as to why they have gone to spectacularly wrong over evolution. [It is no good replying that the scientists are anti-religion because a good proportion are believers.]
Best wishes
Laurie
Email: mgt.harris@btinternet.com
Some ideas are more complex than others and thus take more time to unveil, but evolution is far from the only idea that scientists have followed "in awe" and because of an agenda.
Space would not allow me here to discuss "polywater", N-rays, the Davis & Barnes effect, the myth of mitogenetic rays, the Allison effect, and scotophobin, to name but a few; several of which took very long periods of time before the fraud, or self-deception was discovered. In any case, the examples are many, they are covered up in most cases (who out there has ever heard of any of the things I just listed?), or just swept under the table. We can't have people thinking that scientists can be "emotionally involved with their work", dependant on funds so it HAS to be proven correct, or desperate to publish "something". Crowd pleasing brings in the money. Many of the "frontiersmen" with breakthroughs have died in poverty, with their work only coming to light after their death.
Mike
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One more question which I have asked often with no reply so I'll try again on a separate thread.
I am sure that we all agree that the vast majority of scientists think the evidence for evolution is compelling. I am sure we also agree that scientists are trained to evaluate evidence impartially.
In that case a Creationist owes us an explanation as to why they have gone to spectacularly wrong over evolution. [It is no good replying that the scientists are anti-religion because a good proportion are believers.]
Best wishes
Laurie
http://www.trueorigin.org/steiger.asp
Worth a look.
Julian
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Some ideas are more complex than others and thus take more time to unveil, but evolution is far from the only idea that scientists have followed "in awe" and because of an agenda.
Space would not allow me here to discuss "polywater", N-rays, the Davis & Barnes effect, the myth of mitogenetic rays, the Allison effect, and scotophobin, to name but a few; several of which took very long periods of time before the fraud, or self-deception was discovered. In any case, the examples are many, they are covered up in most cases (who out there has ever heard of any of the things I just listed?), or just swept under the table. We can't have people thinking that scientists can be "emotionally involved with their work", dependant on funds so it HAS to be proven correct, or desperate to publish "something". Crowd pleasing brings in the money. Many of the "frontiersmen" with breakthroughs have died in poverty, with their work only coming to light after their death.
Mike
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One more question which I have asked often with no reply so I'll try again on a separate thread.
I am sure that we all agree that the vast majority of scientists think the evidence for evolution is compelling. I am sure we also agree that scientists are trained to evaluate evidence impartially.
In that case a Creationist owes us an explanation as to why they have gone to spectacularly wrong over evolution. [It is no good replying that the scientists are anti-religion because a good proportion are believers.]
Best wishes
Laurie
Well, I use the information from their own books (only the information, not the speculation). I do this so they can not "call foul" as was done in the other thread here. Is is no more convincing, but it does allow me to communicate with some of them anyway. I try to keep the doors open until the other person closes it. But, thank you for the link, I will have a closer look at it later.
Mike
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http://www.trueorigin.org/steiger.asp
Worth a look.
Julian
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Some ideas are more complex than others and thus take more time to unveil, but evolution is far from the only idea that scientists have followed "in awe" and because of an agenda.
Space would not allow me here to discuss "polywater", N-rays, the Davis & Barnes effect, the myth of mitogenetic rays, the Allison effect, and scotophobin, to name but a few; several of which took very long periods of time before the fraud, or self-deception was discovered. In any case, the examples are many, they are covered up in most cases (who out there has ever heard of any of the things I just listed?), or just swept under the table. We can't have people thinking that scientists can be "emotionally involved with their work", dependant on funds so it HAS to be proven correct, or desperate to publish "something". Crowd pleasing brings in the money. Many of the "frontiersmen" with breakthroughs have died in poverty, with their work only coming to light after their death.
Mike
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One more question which I have asked often with no reply so I'll try again on a separate thread.
I am sure that we all agree that the vast majority of scientists think the evidence for evolution is compelling. I am sure we also agree that scientists are trained to evaluate evidence impartially.
In that case a Creationist owes us an explanation as to why they have gone to spectacularly wrong over evolution. [It is no good replying that the scientists are anti-religion because a good proportion are believers.]
Best wishes
Laurie
There are still some that hold that some of these if not most of these ideas had roots in truth. All were falsified, finally, when either a lab tech, or someone "outside the system" cried foul, hard and long enough.
Mike
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Some ideas are more complex than others and thus take more time to unveil, but evolution is far from the only idea that scientists have followed "in awe" and because of an agenda.
Space would not allow me here to discuss "polywater", N-rays, the Davis & Barnes effect, the myth of mitogenetic rays, the Allison effect, and scotophobin, to name but a few; several of which took very long periods of time before the fraud, or self-deception was discovered. In any case, the examples are many, they are covered up in most cases (who out there has ever heard of any of the things I just listed?), or just swept under the table. We can't have people thinking that scientists can be "emotionally involved with their work", dependant on funds so it HAS to be proven correct, or desperate to publish "something". Crowd pleasing brings in the money. Many of the "frontiersmen" with breakthroughs have died in poverty, with their work only coming to light after their death.
Mike
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One more question which I have asked often with no reply so I'll try again on a separate thread.
I am sure that we all agree that the vast majority of scientists think the evidence for evolution is compelling. I am sure we also agree that scientists are trained to evaluate evidence impartially.
In that case a Creationist owes us an explanation as to why they have gone to spectacularly wrong over evolution. [It is no good replying that the scientists are anti-religion because a good proportion are believers.]
Best wishes
Laurie
All Bible students need to realize that in the creation week of Genesis chapter one, you will plainly see that Adam and Eve are indeed only 2 days younger than the sun, moon amd stars. See Genesis 1:14-19. The creation week was a literal 7 sunset to sunset days, about 6,000 years ago. Thus, (Pardon the pun) Blowing evolution out of the water. Also realizing we have no idea when water was created.
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One more question which I have asked often with no reply so I'll try again on a separate thread.
I am sure that we all agree that the vast majority of scientists think the evidence for evolution is compelling. I am sure we also agree that scientists are trained to evaluate evidence impartially.
In that case a Creationist owes us an explanation as to why they have gone to spectacularly wrong over evolution. [It is no good replying that the scientists are anti-religion because a good proportion are believers.]
Best wishes
Laurie
Email: jd1@comcast.net
All Bible students need to realize that in the creation week of Genesis chapter one, you will plainly see that Adam and Eve are indeed only 2 days younger than the sun, moon amd stars. See Genesis 1:14-19. The creation week was a literal 7 sunset to sunset days, about 6,000 years ago. Thus, (Pardon the pun) Blowing evolution out of the water. Also realizing we have no idea when water was created.
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One more question which I have asked often with no reply so I'll try again on a separate thread.
I am sure that we all agree that the vast majority of scientists think the evidence for evolution is compelling. I am sure we also agree that scientists are trained to evaluate evidence impartially.
In that case a Creationist owes us an explanation as to why they have gone to spectacularly wrong over evolution. [It is no good replying that the scientists are anti-religion because a good proportion are believers.]
Best wishes
Laurie
Email: jd1@comcast.net
When they date the earth rocks as being many thousands of years old?
I only ask.
Laurie
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All Bible students need to realize that in the creation week of Genesis chapter one, you will plainly see that Adam and Eve are indeed only 2 days younger than the sun, moon amd stars. See Genesis 1:14-19. The creation week was a literal 7 sunset to sunset days, about 6,000 years ago. Thus, (Pardon the pun) Blowing evolution out of the water. Also realizing we have no idea when water was created.
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One more question which I have asked often with no reply so I'll try again on a separate thread.
I am sure that we all agree that the vast majority of scientists think the evidence for evolution is compelling. I am sure we also agree that scientists are trained to evaluate evidence impartially.
In that case a Creationist owes us an explanation as to why they have gone to spectacularly wrong over evolution. [It is no good replying that the scientists are anti-religion because a good proportion are believers.]
Best wishes
Laurie
Email: mgt.harris@btinternet.com
and then we have this: Archeology
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When they date the earth rocks as being many thousands of years old?
I only ask.
Laurie
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All Bible students need to realize that in the creation week of Genesis chapter one, you will plainly see that Adam and Eve are indeed only 2 days younger than the sun, moon amd stars. See Genesis 1:14-19. The creation week was a literal 7 sunset to sunset days, about 6,000 years ago. Thus, (Pardon the pun) Blowing evolution out of the water. Also realizing we have no idea when water was created.
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One more question which I have asked often with no reply so I'll try again on a separate thread.
I am sure that we all agree that the vast majority of scientists think the evidence for evolution is compelling. I am sure we also agree that scientists are trained to evaluate evidence impartially.
In that case a Creationist owes us an explanation as to why they have gone to spectacularly wrong over evolution. [It is no good replying that the scientists are anti-religion because a good proportion are believers.]
Best wishes
Laurie