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Hi Ron, I am not sure what your beliefs are on the 'born again' topic but I think it is with mainstream Christian theology. I offer you this brief article to counter that idea if you would get the time to read it sometime. Love in Christ~ Ken
Born Again - When
BORN AGAIN - WHEN?
"There was a man of the Pharisees,
named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and
said unto Him, 'Rabbi, we know that Thou art a teacher come from God: for
no man can do these miracles that Thou doest, except God be with him'. Jesus
answered and said unto him, 'Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man
be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God'. (John
3:1-3)
What was Jesus telling this man? How are we 'born
again'? And when? Let's continue in John's Gospel account in
chapter 3, verse 4,5: "Nicodemus saith unto Him, 'How can a man be born when
he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?'
Jesus answered, 'Verily, verily, (truly,truly) I say unto thee, Except
a man be born of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into the
kingdom of God'."
Nicodemus was confused as to what Jesus meant. He
was thinking physically, instead of spiritually. Jesus clearly did
not mean we are born from our mother's womb again - but, what did
He mean? By saying,"Except a man be born of water and of the
spirit . . ." did He mean that we are 'born again' through baptism? For
it is through the act of baptism (immersion in water - the Greek word is
"baptismos" which means "to immerse") that we receive the gift of the holy
spirit with the laying on of hands (Acts 2:3
. Is this how we're 'born of
water' and 'the spirit'?
In Bullinger's Companion Bible, p.1518, concerning
the 'water' and 'spirit' of John 3:5, it states: "Not two things, but one,
by which the latter Noun (spirit) becomes a superlative and emphatic
Adjective, determining the meaning and nature of the former Noun
(water), showing that one to be spiritual water: i.e. not water but
spirit . It is to be rendered "of water - yea, spiritual water."
What is this 'spiritual water'? John 7:38,39 show us that it
is the holy spirit.
When we are born of a woman, we are born of 'water' (amniotic
fluids) and we are flesh. Nicodemus understood this and Jesus used
this simple truth to illustrate His point. He continued to explain
this in John 3:6: "That which is born of the flesh IS FLESH; and that which
is born of the spirit IS SPIRIT. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must
be born again. The wind bloweth where it listest (wherever it pleases
or wills), and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence
it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the spirit."
Are people who've been baptized like the wind NOW? Of course
not! By building on the knowledge of physical birth with its natural
'water', He explained what kind of birth He had in mind: "Except a man be
born of water - yea, spiritual water - he cannot enter into the kingdom of
God." Natural 'water' brings natural birth - FLESH body. 'Spiritual
water' brings spiritual birth - SPIRIT body. Flesh bears flesh, spirit
bears spirit. Are you still flesh after baptism? Of course!
Was Jesus still flesh after baptism? Yes! When did He become
spirit (again)? Was it not at His resurrection that He was given a
spirit body? Remember that He is "the beginning, the FIRSTBORN from the dead"
(Col 1:1 . He was BORN AGAIN - a second birth - this time from the
DEAD. He was resurrected and CHANGED TO SPIRIT - the FIRST of the
firstfruits. He had become flesh through Mary (Jn 1:14), and He then
became spirit through the resurrection. So we see, Jesus spoke of two
different types of birth: flesh and spirit. We need to experience BOTH
to enter the kingdom of God.
Now if we are not born again at baptism,
when are we? And what happens at baptism?
When God created man, He breathed into his nostrils the
breath of life (Gen 2:7). This 'breath of life' is the spirit of man--our
conscience. As we have seen, at baptism we receive the spirit of
God called both the holy spirit and the spirit of truth (John 15:26).
This spirit of truth works hand in hand with the word of truth (John
17:17). They are spoken of as a 'seed' (the Greek word being "sperma"
hence 'sperm, seed'). God's seed (sperm) is sown in us and meets with
our spirit (likened unto the ovum) and we are thence CONCEIVED. "The
spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of
God." (Rom 8:16). Baptism is not then our second (spiritual) birth,
but our BEGETTAL as God's children.
Allow me to explain this in another way. When my
wife was pregnant with our son, he had only been begotten and was NOT YET
born. At conception, when the sperm and ovum met (like God's spirit
and our spirit), he became our child. That is when my wife became a mother
and I a father. It is the same with baptism. Baptism is when
we are CONCEIVED as children of God. He becomes our Father and we become
His children, although, we are NOT YET born. It is the start of our
development as a part of the Divine Family of God, into which we WILL BE
born at the resurrection.
To enter this world and natural life, we pass through
a very narrow birth canal. To enter into the kingdom of God and ETERNAL
life, we again must pass through the narrow way. In Mt 7:13,14, Jesus
stated, "Enter ye in at the strait gate...strait is the gate, and narrow
is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
It is this narrow passage which leads to our second birth.
We must strive to enter God's kingdom (Lk 13:24). We
will NOT enter into our inheritence (His Kingdom) until we are born again.
We are His children "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God,
and joint-heirs with Christ [and "flesh and blood cannot inherit
the kingdom of God (I Cor 15:50)]; if so be that we suffer with him,
that we may be also glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings
of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which SHALL
BE revealed in us [at our birth]. For the earnest expectation of the
creature WAITETH for the manifestation of the sons of God...the creature
itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious
liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth
and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves
also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within
ourselves, WAITING for the adoption [this is a mistranslation and should
be rendered "sonship" meaning our new birth], to wit, the redemption
of our body." (Rom 8:17-23). Paul stated that even he and the church
of his time were AWAITING BIRTH into the Family of God.
"Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed upon
us, that we should be called the sons of God; therefore the world knoweth
us not, because it knew Him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and
it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when He shall
appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is." (I John 3:1,2).
"For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ,
who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory."
(Col 3:3)
While we are already begotten as His sons, we await our
spiritual birth into His Kingdom. This occurs at the resurrection.
But we are more than just resurrected, we are changed - given a new body
- one composed of spirit. Recall what Jesus said in John 3:6, flesh
bears flesh & spirit bears spirit. Are we still flesh after our
resurrection? Let's ask the apostle Paul, "But some man will say, How
are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? Thou fool, that
which thou sowest [this is speaking, in type, of our flesh bodies]
is not quickened [made alive], except it die: And that which thou sowest,
thou sowest NOT that body that SHALL BE [the spirit one], but bare
grain [our natural physical body], it may chance of wheat, or of some other
grain...So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption;
it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory:
it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: IT IS SOWN A NATURAL
BODY, IT IS RAISED A SPIRITUAL BODY. There is a natural body, and there is
a spiritual body." (I Cor 15:36-44). Paul explained the resurrection
here by comparing the planting of a seed and what it becomes, with the planting
of a physical body and what it becomes. Now read I Cor 15:48-54, "As
is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as
is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And
as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of
the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT INHERIT
THE KINGDOM OF GOD; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold,
I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep (die), but WE SHALL ALL
BE CHANGED. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: for
the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and
we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and mortal
must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on
incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be
brought to pass the saying that is written, "Death is swallowed up in victory."
When we are born again, we will never die again (Rev
21:5,6). We will be raised as spirit beings. We will be like
our Father and our Elder Brother Jesus the Christ as they have had planned
since before the world came into being. God is reproducing Himself
as He instructed man to do (Gen 1:2 . This is His wondrous plan for
His most beloved creation - mankind. It is the mystery of God (Rev
10:7). We will rule His Kingdom with Him. For we are created
in the image of God and we are awaiting our birth. New creatures in
Christ, awaiting our change. What manner of LOVE has our Father bestowed
upon us and what wondrous glory He'll share with us - His Family.
STUDY YOUR BIBLES & PRAY UNCEASINGLY
-GOD BLESS-
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