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SVsleuth
 Apr 15, 06 - 9:59 AM |
C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
In cast you weren't aware, I just thought y'all might be interested to check out Clip #2 of the new Project Mercury site. It mentions that Lex might need to hire a codebreaker & names Christopher J. Beppo: http://journals.aol.com/prjctmrc2ldr/ProjectMercury |
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shirkie
Apr 15th, 2006 - 5:06 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
I took a look at the clip after someone on KSite said the clip was about the ESPs and Beppo... How cool is it that TPTB are finally giving CJB and the ESPs the attention they deserve??? :D |
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jk82672
Apr 18th, 2006 - 2:19 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
The mercury blog was just updated with a picture of a of an ancient tablet. The blog is addressed to Mr. Beppo and asks him to take look at the iconography on it. It looks like another code to be cracked! |
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Tomb Raider
Apr 18th, 2006 - 9:18 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
Shirkie: The symbols on the tablet are the ancient Hondurian Mayan numeral system known as "kal" and can be deciphered by counting in base 20. They used their fingers and toes to count and so they had a twenty numeral system, rather than the base ten we use today (we only used fingers to count). The football looking shape is the zero. Interestingly, this was defined as the proper system of the time based on a non-mutated human who has the correct number of fingers and toes. Also interesting is that the system is know as "kal" and Clark's Kryptonian name is Kal-El. Hope this helps. 
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 18th, 2006 - 11:38 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
I've been monitoring the AOL Journal since it started and have started my own blog about it. Sorta along the same lines as the AOL journal, but I'm going more towards using what they provide us as clues to solve prior to them releasing another post. You can check out my blog at the following location: http://smallville.stelth2000inc.com |
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shirkie
Apr 19th, 2006 - 11:39 AM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
Tomb Raider-- the Mayan numbers thing was already cracked in the ESPs thread (and the Project Mercury thread) at KSite... But I don't remember anyone pointing out the system is called "Kal!" What an interesting factoid!!! I'll definitely be adding that soon. The_Crow-- your blog is awesome... Definitely keep updating it. I was wondering when someone was going to come up with a good Project Mercury companion blog. This Project Mercury blog is soooo fun, isn't it? |
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Agent Lang
Apr 19th, 2006 - 7:01 PM |
Project Mercury
Project Mercury proves to be a fascinating and exciting quest to once again find the truth and save this planet from complete destruction. Target Mercury has proven to have superhuman speeds and the seeming ability to be in more than one place at one time, making tracking near impossible. Areas that Mercury has said to have been in have been riddled with death, haunting visions, fevered hallucinations and deadly diseases and it is thought that Mercury may be collecting them for some dark and unknown purpose of his own. I will be keeping Crow fully updated on the latest blogs and be providing transcripts for the video blogs as they come in. Agent Lang signing off |
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shirkie
Apr 19th, 2006 - 7:58 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
Thank you, Agent Lang! |
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 21st, 2006 - 3:13 AM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
I've gone about making some more posts to the site... I try to make daily posts. Posts are definately made right after something has been posted on Project Mercury Blog. |
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Starlight Angel
Apr 21st, 2006 - 3:01 PM |
Project Mercury
This is really cool!!! Keep it up you guys!!! |
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 21st, 2006 - 7:34 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
As we have still have yet to hear from the blue and gold teams, we may have to fear the worst with the two teams. It may be that their cover has been compromised for the time being and waiting for the smoke to clear before they check in. But there is that chance that Mercury caught on to them and we have seen the demise of the two teams. |
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 22nd, 2006 - 10:21 AM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
It's nice to know that Blue and Gold Teams are alright. Anyone else trying to figure out the true meaning of the tablet? |
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Agent Lang
Apr 22nd, 2006 - 3:11 PM |
Project Mercury
Agent Lang reporting in Hello Crow. I am sorry for not have reported in lately but I have been doing some investigating of my own as of late. I am very relieved that Gold and Blue Team are very safe and sound. I was worried for their safety and as I told you I though their position had been compromised. I am also lead to believe that perhaps this was true. Mercury seemed to have known of Team Gold's presence and beat them to the punch. Regarding Team Blue I believe that Ana (Project Leader) may be suspecting something similar and has noticed that Mercury has been getting threateningly close, which may be the reason for the sudden change in position even though it would affect Blue's investigation negatively. Regarding Team Blue's latest report of activities I have investigated Piri Reis and I stumbled upon something that may or may not be helpful, I'm not yet sure but I found it very interesting. I was investigating Piri Resi and I came across something called The Piri Resi Map at http://www.ufodigest.com/piri.html Here's an except from the site: The latest news about UFO sightings and UFO news - Posted Today: April 22, 2006 The Piri Reis Map, which is a genuine document, not a hoax of any kind, was made at Constantinople in 1513 CE. It focuses on the western coast of Africa, the eastern coast of South America, and the northern coast of Antarctica. Piri Reis could not have acquired his information on this latter region from contemporary explorers because Antarctica remained undiscovered until 1818 CE, more than 300 years after he drew the map. The ice-free coast of Queen Maud Land shown in the map is a colossal puzzle because the geological evidence confirms that the very latest date that it could have been surveyed and charted in an ice-free condition is 4000 BCE. The map itself can be learned about more and more clearly viewed and in colour at these links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map http://www.sacred-texts.com/piri/index.htm http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm Author: prjctmrc2africa (global mission leader) Subject: Report from Siberia Ana has just reported from Evenkia. Ana from Evenkia "We are curently in Evenkia, Siberia. The Target has just left here. He was observed consulting with aboriginal peoples and exploring various bogs and swamps. Appartently something struck here in 1908 with the power of 40 megatons of TNT and left deposits that scientists are still trying to explain. The bizarre Extraterrestrial properties of this location lead Hancock to believe his theory is correct. He is asking for the funding needed to get him and the Unit immediatly to Cambodia. I have authorized this. Until next time." - I shall be investigating this place. Perhaps we may find something of value in the snow? Agent Lang signing off |
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Agent Lang
Apr 22nd, 2006 - 3:31 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
I have investigated this and found the Bizarre Event Ana is talking about. It is called the Tunguska event: The site I found the most information on this is here. It has lots of information and pictures: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event Here's some excepts from the webpage: - The Tunguska event was a natural explosion that occurred at 60°55′N 101°57′E, near the Podkamennaya (Stony) Tunguska River in what is now Evenkia, Siberia, at 7:17 AM on June 30, 1908. Though not conclusive, the leading explanation in scientific circles for the explosion is the airburst of an asteroid or comet 6 to 10 kilometers above the Earth's surface. The size of the blast was later estimated to be between 10 and 15 megatons. It felled an estimated 60 million trees over 2,150 square kilometers. In recent history, the Tunguska event stands out as one of the rare large-scale demonstrations that a full doomsday event is a real possibility for the human race. - Surprisingly, there was little scientific curiosity about the impact at the time, possibly owing to the isolation of the Tunguska region. If there were any early expeditions to the site, the records were lost during the subsequent chaotic years — World War I, the Russian Revolution of 1917, and the Russian Civil War. Kulik's party reached the site in 1927. To their surprise, no crater was to be found. There was instead a region of scorched trees about 50 kilometres across. A few near ground zero were still strangely standing upright, their branches and bark stripped off. Those farther away had been knocked down in a direction away from the center. During the next ten years, there were three more expeditions to the area. Kulik found a little "pothole" bog that he thought might be the crater but after a laborious exercise in draining the bog, he found there were old stumps on the bottom, ruling out the possibility that it was a crater. In 1938, Kulik managed to arrange for an aerial photographic survey of the area, which revealed that the event had knocked over trees in a huge butterfly-shaped pattern. Despite the large amount of devastation, there was no crater to be seen. Expeditions sent to the area in the 1950s and 1960s found microscopic glass spheres in siftings of the soil. Chemical analysis showed that the spheres contained high proportions of nickel and iridium, which are found in high concentrations in meteorites, indicating that they were of extraterrestrial origin. Detailed systematic eyewitness reports began to be gathered as late as 1959, when interviews were conducted with many of the indigineous people who had been within 100 km of the explosion. Most of these accounts claimed that the local people had been covered with boils after the explosion, with whole families dying off. The medical scientists attached to the expedition concluded that there had been an epidemic of smallpox in the area at the time. Expeditions led by Gennady Plekhanov found no elevated levels of radiation, which might have been expected had the detonation been nuclear in nature. - Unexplained phenomena There are still some aspects that have not been convincingly explained. The site lies in the middle of an ancient volcanic eruption zone, and researchers once detected an emission of radon gas that lasted four hours. Attempts to apply carbon-14 dating have shown that the soil was enriched in radioactive carbon-14. - UFOs UFO aficionados have long claimed that the Tunguska event is the result of an exploding alien spaceship or an alien weapon going off to "save the Earth from an imminent threat". This hypothesis appears to originate from a science fiction story penned by Soviet engineer Alexander Kazantsev in 1946, in which a nuclear-powered Martian spaceship, seeking fresh water from Lake Baikal, blew up in mid-air. The 1998 television series The Secret KGB UFO Files, broadcast on Turner Network Television, referred to the Tunguska event as "the Russian Roswell" and claimed that crashed UFO debris had been recovered from the site. In 2004, a group of Russian scientists from the Tunguska Space Phenomenon Public State Fund claimed to have found the wreck of an alien spacecraft at the site. The proponents of the UFO hypothesis have never been able to provide any significant evidence for their claims. It should be noted that the Tunguska site is downrange from the Baikonur Cosmodrome and has been contaminated repeatedly by Russian space debris, most notably by the failed launch of the fifth Vostok test flight on December 22, 1960. The payload landed close to the Tunguska impact site, and a team of engineers was dispatched there to recover the capsule and its two canine passengers (both which survived). |
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shirkie
Apr 22nd, 2006 - 3:55 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
Excellent reports, Agent Lang! You're certainly doing a lot of digging. Any progress yet with the Mayan tablet numbers? |
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 22nd, 2006 - 8:31 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
Still nothing solid on the numbers, I'm still working on the mayan calender theory. Without much else to go on... it's hard to figure out. |
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Agent Lang
Apr 23rd, 2006 - 1:34 PM |
Project Mercury
Thank you for your kind comments shirkie and Crow. I am just glad my report has proved useful. I'm afraid that I am about as stuck on the Mayan tablet mystery as the both of you. If I manage to figure something out I'll let you know. What about our Kryptonsite connections, or the codebreakers. Have they come up with anything Miss Shirkie? If not then I hope we get those answers Beppo was going to send really soon. |
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shirkie
Apr 23rd, 2006 - 2:03 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
As far as I can tell, guesses are being batted around over at KSite, but no one has determined what the Mayan tablet means. The numbers remain a mystery to everyone-- even the most devoted codebreakers. Where is our beloved Beppo?? |
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Agent Lang
Apr 23rd, 2006 - 3:42 PM |
Project Mercury
- By the way, as I have posted on the blog site: I would just take a moment to thank Miss Shirkie of Ezra Small Prophecies and the codebreakers, The WB and AOL, Devoted To Smallville Fans, Bravenet connections, and our beloved Kryptonsite for their help in these matters. |
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 23rd, 2006 - 9:38 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
Lex is ticked off to no end at Hancock and not seein any results from Beppo isn't helping matters. I sure hope to see something from Beppo soon. I can't decipher the tablet without some help from him. |
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shirkie
Apr 24th, 2006 - 11:12 AM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
Beppo, things are becoming more serious. It is not just fellow codebreakers who are anxious to determine what the Mayan tablet means; it seems your employer, Lex Luthor, is becoming increasingly frustrated with the mystery... Post soon, dear Beppo, post soon. |
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Agent Lang
Apr 24th, 2006 - 11:40 AM |
Project Mercury
Dear Beloved Beppo Please post something soon! You are swimming dangerous waters my friend and the shark is getting hungry. I just spoke to Lex on the phone and his anger is almost to the point of no return! I know that your genius cannot be rushed to any degree but if you might give Lex something, anything to bite on and calm him down it would make things easier for the rest of us. Sincerly Agent Lang |
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BillyK
Apr 24th, 2006 - 7:15 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
More numbers on the ezra small page, and they´re coded in the same patern as 28476! 13 54 44 98 77 03 44 79 78 65 35 31 64 89 61 38 54 47 80 70 27 53 58 64 58 31 26 |
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 25th, 2006 - 12:33 AM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
I've rearranged the numbers on the first tablet, coincidently enough there were enough numbers there to form quite a few pairs of numbers... now the way they are to be displayed may be off, but here is what i have 13 34 99 71 34 12 45 31 95 44 38 12 34 10 97 03 11 51 02 34 31 19 78 15 12 33 43 70 91 11 21 21 |
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 25th, 2006 - 12:48 AM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
this may be a bit better... 13 34 99 71 34 12 45 31 95 44 38 12 34 10 97 03 11 51 02 34 31 19 78 15 12 33 43 70 91 11 21 21 |
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 25th, 2006 - 1:12 AM |
Number Recap
Okay, here is a recap of the groupings of numbers from the Ezra Small page and what we’ve uncovered on the tablets. Hopefully they are in the order in which they are to be recieved 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 13 54 44 98 77 03 44 79 78 65 35 31 64 89 61 38 54 47 80 70 27 53 58 64 58 31 26 13 34 99 71 34 12 45 31 95 44 38 12 34 10 97 03 11 51 02 34 31 19 78 15 12 33 43 70 91 11 21 21 29 69 67 93 84 23 59 85 83 88 30 49 67 80 75 30 59 67 88 75 32 67 60 89 71 32 71 About the only abnormality with all this is the 1st tablet we got, there were more nubmers than what there are in the 2 previous sets and the last set we have gotten. What’s it mean? |
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 25th, 2006 - 6:09 AM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
I goofed... shoulda looked more into what's already happened with the Mayan tablet numbers... I thought I had translated them right, but I hadn't... The spaces to me were indicating a new line, but they weren't :( I just happened to see how SupamanFan translated the tablet. Now with everything set right, this is what I have: 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 13 54 44 98 77 03 44 79 78 65 35 31 64 89 61 38 54 47 80 70 27 53 58 64 58 31 26 29 69 67 93 85 23 59 85 83 88 30 49 67 80 75 30 59 67 88 75 32 67 60 89 71 32 41 29 69 67 93 84 23 59 85 83 88 30 49 67 80 75 30 59 67 88 75 32 67 60 89 71 32 41 |
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 25th, 2006 - 7:15 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
RE: RE: RE: Code to Decipher Subject: RE: RE: RE: Code to Decipher Author: Beppo apologies. since your message came in, i have also received a personal "attitude adjustment" from our generous benefactor. thanks for bringing him in on this, buddy truth is i thought you guys would have put it together by now. more than a week ago, i posted the relevant ezra diary entry at the smallville chamber of commerce site for the Ezra Small House. scroll to the bottom and don't be afraid of the dark. like i said...put it together sorry for the defeatist tone, but as you said, there's gonna be much bigger fish to fry pretty soon--especially where i am. i've been saying this for years, but only a handful of people were listening. at any rate, if the message we're seeking follows ezra's familiar conventions, its meaning will be clear after three lines. however, i am beginning to think you may have a fourth key destination to visit before we fully understand what's coming. when you're done playing in Polynesia, Ana will have another set of coordinates for you. BEppo In what he's posted he left us a HUGE clue. What we want to do is take everything we've learned thus far (scroll to the bottom and don't be afraid of the dark. like i said...put it together) and put it together like a big jigsaw puzzle. When he said that "i thought you guys would have put it together by now", I think he was directing it towards us. Now with this information... let's see what we can come up with. |
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Agent Lang
Apr 26th, 2006 - 8:48 AM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
My Interpretation Of Beppo’s Latest Report April 26th, 2006 Agent Lang reporting in! Wow! You have sure been busy lol! I got some speculation about Beppo’s last message: “I have also received a personal “attitude adjustment” from our generous benefactor. Thanks for bringing him in on this, buddy” Beppo actually sounds a little ticked/sacrcastic from this and it also looks like Beppo and Hancock had been working on this before Lex came into the picture and perhaps Beppo is a little annoyed that Hancock brought Lex into this. “Truth is, I thought you guys would have put it all together by now” This part definitely sounds like he is talking straight to us and is kinda amused by watching us trying to figure it out. Put it all together does sound like a jigsaw, maybe we are supposed to put the first Mayan tablet, the mayan calendar, the stone rubbings and something from the passage in the Ezra Small House. “Scroll to the bottom and don’t be afraid of the dark. Like I said…put it all together.” This is definitely referring to that hidden passage in the big dark space at the bottom of the page, which you must highlight using your mouse to see. I still have figure out “put it all together” from that passage but here’s my guess: Maybe there are some codes we haven’t solved yet or maybe we have to find all the quotes that relate to something Mayan or Hondorian or from South America and put them all together to figure out what is going on. “Sorry for the defeatist tone, but as you said, there is going to be even bigger fish to fry pretty soon–especially where I am” For those wondering what a defeatist is I looked it up: defeatist: Someone who is resigned to defeat. “Especially where I am” - It’s like he is trying to tell us that to slim down the choices more the quotes in the hidden text refer to Beppo’s current location or something. “At any rate, if the message we’re seeking follows Ezra’s familiar conventions, its meaning will be clear after three lines. However, I am beginning to think you may have a fourth key destination to visit before we fully understand what’s coming.” From what I got from this is that, directly what he is referring to is a specific “three lines” in the hidden text. A Fourth key destination? Smallville? I’m wondering if the Kawatche caves and the Naman legend might come back into play? Or the underwater Mayan ruins where one of the three stones was found? Guess I’ll have to go do more digging. That’s all I got right now and again this is just my interpretation of the message. I just know that when Beppo speaks, he has a code for everything. Agent Lang signing off |
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BillyK
Apr 26th, 2006 - 9:07 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
i worked with the numbers of the ezra small house which beppo said were relevant to the matter at hand and i got the sacred number 27! now i will fully explain how! arrange the 2 tables in 3 lines with 9 numbers on each line (put line 1 of table 1 together with line 1 of table 2 and so on) then match: _28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 _13 54 44 98 77 03 44 79 78 __________*7___*4 _76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 _65 35 31 64 89 61 38 54 47 ________*6_ *8___*8 _84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 _80 70 27 53 58 64 58 31 26 *8_*7_*2______*4 NOW HERE COMES: 7 + 4 + 6 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 7 + 2 +4 .... oh i knew it! TWENTY SEVEN!!! 746888724 (9 numbers, a reduction of 27, 2+7 = 9) |
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BillyK
Apr 26th, 2006 - 9:15 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
i realize know i forgot to mention 7 + 4 + 6 + 8 + 8 + 8 + 7 + 2 + 4 = 54 but what we have to do is divide 54 by 2 (since we worked with 2 tables to get the numbers) then we get 27. now i am working to check the connection between 74688872 and 28476... 54 and 27 respectively |
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ThE__CroW_
Apr 28th, 2006 - 10:34 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
how about we "put together" these messages in a 9x9 (oooo what a coincidence, the number 9) sudoku puzzle format. |
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Agent Lang
Apr 29th, 2006 - 4:33 PM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
Friday, April 28, 2006 Message for All Members of Project Mercury 2.0 Author: prjctmrc2ldr (LLuthor) Subject: Message for All Members of Project Mercury 2.0 “The material you’ve been compiling is intriguing, but second-hand accounts and ancient codes aren’t going to cut it. I retained each and every one of your services because I wanted hard evidence of Mercury’s unusual characteristics. Re-task the satellite surveillance, get lenses on the ground, utilize every resource in our arsenal. But bring me photographic proof. This isn’t a bird-watching mission wrapped in a Sudoku puzzle. Now catch him in the act. And show him to me!” prjctmrc2ldr at 8:36:23 PM Agent Lang reporting in! Whoa! Lex is commanding a call to action! He’s saying that he wants hard core proof of Mercury’s events. Unfortunately for us to do that he’s asking us to move in closer to Mercury. If what we’ve seen and what we’ve heard he’s done is true, I can understand why the others have been watching from a distance. I gotta laugh at the Sudoku puzzle reference though, I was doing one the other day while hunting for Mercury, I wonder if he knew? Or perhaps this is a clue to watch we should do with all those random numbers we kept finding. For those who do it you will know what I’m talking. In a Sudoku Puzzle, it is like a big square and every row across and down must have the numbers 1 to 9 without repeating. Perhaps this is what should be done with the numbers to help solve the mystery and find out what those annoying unsolvable numbers are about? Maybe those infamous numbers: 27, 9? and 28478, are about the Soduku. Which would mean: 9 across, 3 down, 27 numbers and 28478 are the ones you start with. Or perhaps we are supposed to look for the ones we are missing: 1,3,5,6,9? Agent Lang signing off |
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madCoder
May 4th, 2006 - 6:31 AM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
I had a good laugh about the Sudoku comments. Beppo's mention to Sudoku clearly is meant to tell us that Sudoku is *not* the answer to this puzzle ;) Besides, Tablet 2 wouldn't work anyway because there are 2 67's in column 3... The numbers we have to work with are (sorry for the repetition..): 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 13 54 44 98 77 03 44 79 78 65 35 31 64 89 61 38 54 47 80 70 27 53 58 64 58 31 26 20 49 54 72 76 03 57 80 63 80 35 24 52 69 61 33 44 53 83 79 24 52 57 88 75 31 33 29 69 67 93 85 23 59 85 83 88 30 49 67 80 75 30 59 67 88 75 32 67 60 89 71 32 41 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 62 84 76 28 47 There are 5 sets of numbers, and 5 numbers in the mysterious 28476. The numbers range from 03 all the way to 98. They contain evens, odds, primes, squares, cubes, and I'm sure more types of numbers, which rules out a pattern there. A few numbers appear in the same position across different tablets, like 03 in groups 2 and 3, 76 in groups 1, 3, and 5. Probably others, these are just what I noticed at first glance. Beppo saying that you may need to go to a 4th, seems to indicate that the translation is going to be 4 lines instead of the usual 3. Going back over some of the things that were written in the journals, both beppo and prjctmrc2sa have talked about math being the answer. prjctmrc2sa mentions "nonborrow", which is a term used in economics. Beppo talks about "how to extract meaning by removing one set of circumstances from another." Maybe we should remove all the numbers of the 28476 sequence from one or all of the other 3... Or something similar. Beppo's story ("Liber Abaci" written by Fibonacci) also talks about a young Fibonacci studying maths with his father, and in the end, realizing and embracing the "Hindu" system, or "Modus Indorum", which he explains to be that, with the numbers 0-9, any number can be written. Fibonacci is also the guy who came up with the Fibonacci sequence, which is found in infinite places in nature. That is where you start with 1, 1. Then the next number is the sum of the previous 2. The sequence is then 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55, etc... prjctmrc2sa mentions Joseph Mauborgne, a cryptologist in the 1900s, who developed a solution for the Playfair cipher -- one in which letters are encrypted in pairs of 2, instead of a simple substitution... Well, all of our numbers here are 2-digits, so I have a feeling this will be handy to know. So going along with that, and what the prjctmrc2sa guy said about "doing the math", and "take it away one step at a time", then "do not be negative". When you combine these clues with the clue of Fibonacci, I think what he and beppo are trying to tell us is that we have to use our key (the 28476* block) to transpose the other 3, probably using math of some sort (division, subtraction, binary XOR [this is a tough one to explain, but if I manage to find a pattern, I'll do my best to explain it :x], etc). Division would only make sense if the numbers all come out even, or follow the advice of the Mayans and drop fractions. Subtraction would make more sense if you listen to the project leader guy, who says "dont be negative", which would probably mean either 1) take the absolute value of the negative results, or 2) when going below 0, add 100 to it, so as to keep the number a positive 2-digit value. This would make the most sense in THIS case because of the Fibonacci reference -- IN essence, we would be doing a *reverse* fibonacci. XOR-ing makes more sense in the cryptography world, because that's what makes it possible to encrypt with one (public) key, and decrypt with another (private) key -- known as PKI, PKE, key-pairs, etc, in the encryption world (look up PGP -- the guy who invented that idea made a MAJOR breakthrough in communications security, that is still being used in just about every type of encryption on the Internet). I think we should concentrate on the Fibonacci idea of subtracting numbers (this would meet the clues from BOTH the project guy and beppo) I think this is a lot of good information to start with (I'm sorry if this is all repeated from somewhere else ... I am just jumping back into this after a long dry spell, so I haven't read anything else except what's on SESPS - not even the KSite forums yet.) It's 5:30 am right now, so i may not be able to get very far on it right now  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mauborgne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playfair_cipher |
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madCoder
May 7th, 2006 - 6:47 AM |
Re: C.J. Beppo in Project Mercury
Wow, guess I should read the KSite forums more often :p There is one more though, which I'm not sure if it was mentioned yet on the forums. Everyone seemed to be doing the calculations on specific sets, and only one direction (ie: set1 - set2). I wrote a script to do the calculations between all sets of numbers in both directions ( [url]http://madcoder.servebeer.com/~madcoder/mercury.php[/url] ), and found this: ORAMANWHOISNE@TMOSTPOWERFUL "Or a man who is next most powerful" This is just like the playfair cipher that I mentioned above, where one of the letters (usually X, Z, or Q) is removed from the key or message (because the cipher relies on a 5x5 square, which is 25 spots, so 1 letter has to be removed). So all '@' is actually an 'X', it's just inserted after the encryption as 00. It shows up as a '@' because it's the ASCII character that comes before 'A', which is 01. A real playfair decryption wouldn't work here though, because like I said, it relies on a 5x5 square for the key, and we don't have any sets that are 25 long. Shirkie: can you think of any old prophecies that had 25 number pairs or 25 letters, that was never solved? If so, we can try that against some of the sets that didn't translate. |
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