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Ellen MacCheyne

jmacche1@rochester.rr.com


Mar 30, 08 - 10:36 PM
Plastic Shaman?????

Do you have any information on Shaman teacher, Kay Cordell Whittaker? She lives in Santa Fe, NM?
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May 7th, 2008 - 12:39 AM
Re: Plastic Shaman?????

I haven't heard anything. Do you have a website or can you reprint any claims she's made in brochures, flyers etc?
Laurel



Sep 6th, 2008 - 7:55 AM
Re: Plastic Shaman?????

From her site:

http://www.worldbalance.com/KayWhitakerBio.htm

http://www.worldbalance.com/index.htm

Looks like a fraud to me.
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Sep 8th, 2008 - 8:57 PM
Re: Plastic Shaman????? Undoubtedly

I took a look at the website and all her claims appear to be totally bogus.

Just the fact that she would write a book entitled, "The Reluctant Shaman" should set off alarm bells in anyone capable of critical thinking.

One doesn’t become a "shaman" through an apprenticeship -- not anywhere in the Americas.

There are a lot of things to indicate that this woman is a huge fraud. Whitaker’s claim that she "lived for a number of years with and among many different Northern American Indians, primarily those following the Lakota Sundance tradition, learning much about their ways of praying and thinking" is patently false.

I would suggest contacting her and asking her for the full, legal names of the Lakota who allegedly taught her Sundance tradition.
I’m sure she’ll be evasive.

The "Red Door Radionics Research" section of the site is ridiculous.

The first clue to non-Natives thinking about throwing their money away on this fraud should be the mention of radionics. The pseudo-science of radionics and the quackery of Albert Adams has absolutely nothing to do with any legitimate indigenous spiritual belief. The practice can be traced back to Blavatsky, Steiner, Himmler. It appears that Whitaker and her crew has read way too much Blavatsky and other old New Age books.

There are dozens of skeptical sites debunking radionics. Here's a few:

Australian Skeptics (www.skeptics.com.au/journal/1993/1_radionics.htm)

Skepdic

Wapedia

Skeptiwiki

Rational Wiki

Barbelith.com

James Randi Forum

The website is offensive in its audacity to claim that anyone can just become a shaman, but what is really troubling is the interest in radionics and its association with the Nazi occult. Himmler thought of himself as an “esoteric scientist”. He wanted to use radionics for mind control.

Educate Yourself



A great book to understand why woo-woos love Blavatsky and her electromagnetic pseudo science
Madame Blavatsky's Baboon: A History of the Mystics, Mediums, and Misfits Who Brought Spiritualism to America. By Peter Washington.

There's a review here.

I left a message with a professor who know about legitimate spiritual leaders in the Amazon basin and asked him if he knows of Domano and Chea Hetaka or what a "Kala Keh nah seh, a builder of webs of balance" is. It's suspicious that she refers to him as both a Peruvian and a Brazilian on different websites. I’ll post his response, if he has one other than roaring laughter.

The website also contains a disclaimer that should be a red flag for thinking people.

DISCLAIMER:
"Our work stems out of ancient spiritual traditions and as such any part of our work, especially our healing work, is considered a sacred spiritual ceremony. No part of our work nor any part of the material shared on our website, in e-mails or in print is intended as a diagnosis, cure, treatment or healing in the medical sense of these terms. If you are dealing with a medical condition we are obligated to refer you to an enlightened, licensed medical practitioner or physician."

No legitimate indigenous spiritual leader needs a disclaimer like this. This is a conscious effort to avoid prosecution for fraud.


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